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Conference: Surviving High School
The following transcript was recorded on
Tuesday, 8/12/97, 3:00 PM PT
with Michael Riera, Ph.D. counselor and author
of
"Surviving High School"
and
"Uncommon Sense for Parents of Teens"!
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KatieCCC: Welcome to The InSite!
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KatieCCC: Today we are interviewing Michael Riera,
Ph.D.,
KatieCCC: counselor and author of "Surviving High School"
and
KatieCCC: "Uncommon Sense for Parents of Teens"!
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KatieCCC: Mike is here to chat about making sure you get the
most
KatieCCC: out of these high school years. How do you
balance
KatieCCC: school work with your social life? Where do sports
fit
KatieCCC: in? How do you make time for friends? What
about
KatieCCC: college? Mike's got sensible answers and a great
sense
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KatieCCC: Mike, tell us a little bit about yourself and your
work!
Mike1: Okay... dean of students at Marin Academy, an
independent high school in Northern Cal....
Mike1: I've been a counselor in schools for 15
years...
Mike1: worked with over 20,000 students and
parents...
Mike1: will be a regular guest.on the CBS Saturday
morning Show.
Mike1: ga
KatieCCC: Oooh a TV Star!!! :-)
KatieCCC: Mike, you have written two books: "Surviving High School" and "Uncommon Sense for Parents of Teens". What are
these about? How did you go about writing them?
Mike1: Uncommon Sense is for parents...
Mike1: more than anything a translation of what's
happening with teens...
Mike1: A way to understand and strengthen the
relationship...
Mike1: keeping teens and parents as allies rather
than enemies...
Mike1: Surviving HS is from years of work shops..
Mike1: hearing...
Mike1: the book is "What kids are thinking...."
and How they are handling ...
Mike1: ga
KatieCCC: Can you give us a few suggestions on how to
balance time in High School?
Mike1: This is a big issue...
Mike1: Hopefully this is what everyone learns by the
end of high school.
Mike1: It's like what Mark Twain said...
Mike1: "Good judgement comes from experience, and
experience comes from BAD judgement."
Mike1: I think the easiest place to start is by
finding one's passion and working outward from there.
Mike1: ga
KatieCCC: Ahh..such as Science, music, etc?
Mike1: Yes... Katie, science, music, art, academics,
sports, community service, religion.
Mike1: ga
Lisa18: I got into a fight, which totally got out of hand,
so now I have three crazy girls after me.
Lisa18: what should I do?
Mike1: Tell me more ... what was the fight about?
Lisa18: I got some bad advice, and then they got mad, and
they started rumors about me, wrote bad notes about people
and signed with it my name
Mike1: Lisa... go to the source...
Mike1: acknowledge that you got some bad advice and
acted on some "pre-conceived judgements"...
Mike1: All you can do, Lisa is clean up your
part...
Lisa18: okay......but will i be okay at the high scool?
Mike1: Not sure what you mean by "okay"...
Mike1: if you mean "safe", you had better be!...
Mike1: and there better be some people at the school
to make sure of that!
Mike1: If you mean socially, well, that's
different...
Mike1: hard as it sounds, you have to take the long
view...
KatieCCC: Thanks for sharing that with us Lisa!!
minivanner: I want to get back to the pressure of
scheduling
minivanner: My son has 2 AP and 4 honors courses
minivanner: also band, sports, church commitments etc
minivanner: oh-and he has a job
minivanner: how does this affect a kid- is this a bad
thing?
Mike1: What grade, mini?
minivanner: going to be a junior
Mike1: Wow..
minivanner: he is #6 in his class
Mike1: depends on the kid, mini...
Mike1: how is he handling it?
minivanner: well-ok-I am more worried than he is
Mike1: but is he happy?
minivanner: yes...very!
Mike1: Okay..
Mike1: some kids thrive on this kind of
activity...
Mike1: others get crushed by it because it doesn't
come from within...
Mike1: Most kids in High school at some point have to
learn that they can't do everythingat the same time, they
have to learn to set priorities...
Mike1: And this isn't easy.
Mike1: Ga
KatieCCC: mini?
minivanner: I feel this priority issue is bad now
minivanner: kids feel they "must" to get scholarships etc..
are we not inflicting an adult world on them? Do we not want
them to have fun?
Mike1: Mini...
Mike1: basically kids have decision making muscles
and we need to make sure they get enough and not too much
exercise...
Mike1: so when the pressure comes from society to do
everything we need to take the focus away from the end
results and more on the process involved...
Mike1: That is the joys and struggles that go with
learning regardless of the grade or outcome.
Mike1: It is difficult to talk to teens about
process, because as a society we're so focused on the
outcome.
Mike1: One last thing..
Mike1: for example next time your son has a test
don't ask him how he did...
Mike1: ask him if it was a "good" test...
Mike1: did it test his knowledge...
Mike1: did it make him put new ideas together...
Mike1: did he have to dig deeper inside...
Mike1: in fact, if he had to grade the test, what
would he give the instructor?
GraTIS: Are freshman initiations common in most high schools
and if so how should one handle them?
Mike1: Good question...
Mike1: Not common in most schools, but once they are
in a system, they are hard to get rid of...
Mike1: Also, is this a "formal" or "informal"
initiation?
GraTIS: Kind of formal, Mike...
GraTIS: Everyone gets up on stage...
Mike1: Mmmm... then talk to the school...
Mike1: find out the exact parameters.
MeeMee: My mom she has this habit of bringing me to
school...
MeeMee: She won't let me go by myself
MeeMee: I'll be entering HS next year
Mike1: holw old are you and where does she drop you
off?
MeeMee: 13
MeeMee: And in front of the school
MeeMee: Sometimes even inside
Mike1: MeeMee.... I understand...
Mike1: and make a print out of this transcript so you
can show it to your mom...
Mike1: driving you to school is great, it shows she
cares for your safety and well being..
Mike1: and she needs to give you your space before
school begins...
Mike1: you should both drive to the high school
together and find a couple of spots one or two blocks away
that she can drop you off and pick you up from...
Mike1: that way she can be sure of your well being
and safety and you can have your space.
Mike1: it's hard for her to watch you grow up.
Ex-Post: Mike, Do you have a Vision?
Mike1: Okay, expost...
Mike1: teachers and schools are often overlooked
resources by both teens and parents alike...
Mike1: teachers, by the nature of their position, can
offer both parents and teens a sensible translation of what
the other party is saying...
Mike1: at the same time favored teachers are safe
adults for teens...
Mike1: that is, they can say things to them that they
wouldn't to their parents, which is important for parents to
know...
Mike1: Their kids have adults that they do talk
to.
Mike1: Next?
KatieCCC: Mike, what do you believe to be the number one
most important thing to do in order to fully ENJOY High
School?
Mike1: Wow.....
Mike1: As Joseph Campbell said...
Mike1: "Follow your bliss."
Mike1: And as Riera said,
Mike1: "Don't confuse your bliss with immediate
gratification."
Mike1: ga
MeeMee: I have this teacher
MeeMee: And well...
MeeMee: She's really mean
MeeMee: then she's nice
MeeMee: And I get really afraid of her sometimes
MeeMee: And I'm afraid I'm gonna get her next year
MeeMee: But the thing that worries me is that in the middle
of exams she comes and pinches my cheeks
MeeMee: Should I talk to her about that
Mike1: YES!!
MeeMee: What should I tell her
Mike1: Mee... tell your favorite teacher, what is
going on, and ask him/her, to come with you, for
support...
Mike1: so you can talk to Ms Cheekpincher, about how
it bothers you.
Mike1: for almost anything a teacher does that
bothers you.
Ex-Post: Mike, Are you a counsler at High School? If so, Do
you have trouble communicating with the kids?
Mike1: I'm a dean of students, and for the most
part... no.
Ex-Post: oh. How do you get them to listen?
Mike1: First I listen to them, Ex-Post...
Mike1: They are usually full of ideas, and as the old
Zen saying goes...
Mike1: "You can't add tea to a cup that is already
full."
KatieCCC: Mike, many people find the work load in high
school to be huge! What are your tips on getting all your
work done quickly and smoothly?
Mike1: Katie...
Mike1: this is a big question...
Mike1: it is about two things really...
Mike1: learning how to study, and making
priorities...
Mike1: it's probably impossible to do
everything...
Mike1: but it is possible to do the most important
things...
Mike1: Teens wrestle with this throughout the 4 years
of high school.
KatieCCC: With all the work in High School, how do you fit
in your social life, extracurricular activities, and
sports?
Mike1: Katie...
Mike1: oddly, research shows that the teens that are
most involved with extra curricular activities do the best
in class.
KatieCCC: Wow!!
JazzyEric: One thing I noticed during my HS years was the
abundance of cliques
JazzyEric: And telling folks to "just avoid them" doesn't
really work....
JazzyEric: What's your advice on that?
Mike1: You're right, Jazzy...
Mike1: acceptance, or rather the avoidance of
loneliness, is one of the strongest motivators of behavior
in high school.
Mike1: This means people get together in groups of
similar people...
Mike1: fortunately, toward the end of sophomore year,
and the beginning of junior year, most people get tired of
these groups and begin to branch out...
Mike1: now teens look for depth and diversity in
friends which is pretty different than what most cliques
have to offer.
Mike1: So hang in there.
Mike1: Things will get better.
KatieCCC: Colleges don't JUST look at grades. What are some
things you can do at your high school to impress
colleges?
Mike1: Good question...
Mike1: Do the things that you really enjoy...
Mike1: if you try to create a resume for a college
you'll be unhappy, and it probably won't work...
Mike1: at the same time, take some risks in high
school.
Mike1: Try some things outside of your comfort
zone...
Mike1: This attitude will impress colleges more than
insincere accomplishments.
KatieCCC: Great Mike! I'll keep it in mind
SkyTV: Does having a lot of friends and boyfriends affect my
school work?
SkyTV: Cause my grades go down
Mike1: it's possible.
Mike1: Sounds like yes in your case.
Mike1: This is a good example of balance.
Mike1: You had it until you got a boyfriend, then you
lost it.
Mike1: Now, you have to figure out how to handle all
your other responsibilities and your boyfriend too!
Mike1: Sometimes this will mean studying when you
rather be with your boyfriend or going out with friends when
you would rather be with your boyfriend.
MIDWEST: If I spend lots of hours on the Internet will me my
grades go down?
Mike1: MIDWEST...
Mike1: if you are not careful...
Mike1: YES.
Mike1: Just like if you spend a lot of time on the
phone, or working on your car, your grades will probably go
down.
Mike1: How many hours a week do you spend, MID?
MIDWEST: umm.....5hrs
Mike1: is that per week or per day? MID
MIDWEST: per day
Mike1: you can't do that during school.
Mike1: MID... you need time for school work, face to
face friends, outdoors, and sleep.
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KatieCCC: Mike, I have learned a lot as I know the rest of
us have,
KatieCCC: and I hope you continue the fine work! Thank you
so much!
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KatieCCC: daughter, or anyone you know would like to apply
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KatieCCC@talkcity.com
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